which is where is the economy going, where are we with jobs, and what's happening next on the debt and deficit issue. >> we got mixed signals from the obama campaign that the president intends to be more aggressive this time around. we know it's a town hall format where the candidate will be taking questions from undecided voters but also with a moderator in place. how well does that play in an audience and with real live average citizen voters? i mean, there has to be a balance in the tone, i would imagine, for how aggressive you can be in that kind of setting. >> yeah. i think both the town hall format creates limits to how tough one can be with the other, but i also think that, you know, obama's running a very fine edge here. i think joe can, quote, be joe, whatever that means in the vice-presidential debate. i thought he was obnoxious. i thought he was caustic. i thought he was abrasive, but he can get away with it in a way that obama can't. i think that if there's anything that people liked or believed in back in '08 with obama, it was that he was sort of fair-minded, and so i think that